Ashford University Review
78Ashford University Review
Who is the author of this review?
I have attended 10 different universities and campuses. This review should be weighed in light of this experience. I have attended college classes in the California State University system, an Ivy League university, colleges in the northeast, southeast, and west of the United States, online, and overseas. I completed all the major coursework for a bachelor of arts in International Business at Ashford University online.
Ashford University
Comparison to other Bachelor's Degree Programs
How Does Ashford University Compare to Other Schools?
This section will be more valuable to readers than the other sections. Hiring managers wondering how an online degree compares to a degree earned on campus have come to the right place. Those who wonder how difficult it will be to complete an online degree versus a traditional in-class process have also come to the right place.
The 12 universities and colleges I attended include: The Defense Language Institute, Monterey Peninsula College, San Jose State University, San Joaquin Delta Community College, Copper Mountain College, University of Maryland, Veteran's Upward Bound Program, University of Pennsylvania, Modesto Junior College, Athens Technical College, Barton Community College, and finally, Ashford University.
Of these 10, two are online programs: Barton and Ashford. The two University of Maryland courses I took in Okinawa, Japan. Athens Tech is in Georgia. UPenn is in Philadelphia. San Jose State, MJC, and Delta are all situated in Central California. So, the comparison provided here is based on personal experience greater than most professors at colleges and universities in the United States.
Ashford University Grading Scale
Grade
| Minimum Percent for Grade
| Quality Points
|
|---|---|---|
A
| 93
| 4.0
|
A-
| 90
| 3.7
|
B+
| 87
| 3.3
|
B
| 83
| 3.0
|
B-
| 80
| 2.7
|
C+
| 77
| 2.3
|
C
| 73
| 2.0
|
C-
| 70
| 1.7
|
D+
| 67
| 1.3
|
D
| 63
| 1.0
|
D-
| 60
| 0.7
|
Grading
Two mainstream grading systems operate on most American campuses. The most common is the straight A to F system based on gradations of ten percent. An A is 90 to 100%, and a D is 60 to 69.99%. Less than 60% is failing, an F.
The next common system, which may be employed by individual professors on any campus anywhere, is the "curve". In this method, professors compile very rigorous examinations to separate even the most dedicated and studious of degree seekers. Questions get asked using theory beyond what is printed and directly stated in the text. Examinees must answer novel questions and apply course material. Every math, physics, chemistry, and engineering exam is of this nature. At the University of Pennsylvania, many courses hosted this exam and grading format.
At traditional campuses with bell towers and ivy covered brick walls enclosing the Quad, students (especially networking affiliations like sports teams and fraternities) keep lists of which professors grade in which manner. They will also compile copies of old exams. More often than not, these old exams will be the source of more than a few questions on the current semester's exam.
Online Grading
Online grading is similar to the tenth gradation system, but much more formatted, and far less variable. First, you are not going to know anyone at the frat house with a box of Professor Smith's old history exams. You have to know it yourself. Second, the X-factor of bizarre, pedantic professors is removed. You will not enter a class to get surprised on the first essay with an F because the professor grants unlimited deductions for spelling, grammar, and sentence use (his discretion). Ashford University has a "grading rubric."
Instructors at Ashford must use the grading rubric. This rubric is a detailed matrix assigning value to each component of an essay. As you might expect, the majority of points relate to what every essay must provide: answers all the questions posed in the assignment; demonstrates use of knowledge from the course work and assigned reading; and meets length requirements. Minor requirements include grammar & spelling, proper formatting according to APA standards, and other technical matter. These minor points have limited points, less than 10 percent altogether. Instructors use a fillable matrix to grade essays. Once an essay is graded, the completed rubric is made available to the student for review. This is one of the great benefits of Ashford University and of online programs in general. It should not be long before traditional campus systems catch up to this standard. (Within 10 years, perhaps?)
Reviewing Returned Work
Each assignment and paper is returned to you in your "basket." In my last online classes at Ashford (one of the improvements I noted in my two years), every returned essay was marked up in Word with notes detailing every point lost. One thing that never happened in my essays was to lose points because the professor disagreed with my answer. I have had that happen in some other courses. The biggest points lost will come by failing to respond to a part of the topic.
Other types of returned work include statistics and accounting homework assignments.
Ashford University Gradebook
Weighting of Material
Most universities have an official policy requiring professors to state in a syllabus material requirements, text books, and weighting of assignments, mid-term exams, and the final exam. This syllabus should be delivered on the first day. In the traditional campuses I attended, these were not always given on the first day. Sometimes they arrived late enough to negatively impact understanding of what the course is testing and how scoring and grading will operate. In a course on Arabic at the University of Pennsylvania, I never received a syllabus. This meant that the Egyptian instructor could grade however she wanted. This meant that the two mediocre muslim students received A's and the prior service Marine received an Incomplete- for not attending enough classes!
No student at Ashford can suffer abuses under the whims of an instructor. The weighting is completely programmed into the course format. For example, BUS 450, International Finance, breaks down the weighting of grades like this: Discussions, 40%; Assignments, 10%; Quizzes, 35%; and Final paper, 15%. You must perform some work twice each week. Logging in does not qualify.
Monitoring Your Grade:
With online schools, including Ashford University, you can monitor your grade at any time. You never have to visit your professor's office hours to check and ensure that the grades on your papers handed back to you are the same as the ones entered by a teacher's assistant into the grade book. (I have brought in assignments and exams more than once to a professor to have my grade increased. TA's do make errors. So do the professors themselves.)
Using the Ashford University Gradebook tool, you can see exactly what weight is assigned to every discussion, assignment, quiz, exam, or paper.
Instructors
In reading the reviews on review sites, some reviewers wrote about one or two bad experiences. I only had one. What I really appreciated in my courses was that the instructors (even the one I loathed) all had more than a decade of public sector experience. At Modesto Junior College, there is a tenured math teacher who is an abomination to the field. He has never worked outside of teaching, uses the examples from previous editions of the text as his teaching, and then gives exams far outside of what was covered in class.
I never had any problems with any instructor at Ashford University being outside the loop of practical application. In the Discussion Forums (two questions must be answered and actively discussed and developed each week), the instructors often give practical advice. Many times, instructors know about the business or work of one of the students, and a worthwhile engagement begins there. Many of the students are also working professionals. Because of this, the discussion forums give a feel of how the text material is applied, and the kinds of ways it works and does not work. In all of this, the instructors guide and facilitate the discussion.
The Ashford University staff easily earn an A.
Which Learners Perform Better on Tests of Knowledge: Online or Face-to-Face?
This question is handily answered by a major conglomeration of studies which have compared distance learning with campus learning. This work is called The No Significant Difference Phenomenon. The following link will allow you to search hundreds of studies comparing online and onground learners, their propensity to persevere or quit (no difference), to perform on final exams (distance learners do better), on overall cumulative scores (no difference), and many other factors.
The No Significant Difference Phenomenon
Additionally, though no study had been produced comparing the income of online degrees vs. campus degrees, this changed in 2012. A report was published showing that online degree holders earn more 6 years after enrolling than those who enroll in state or private non-profit universities. Online Degrees Earn More
Veteran Education Leader on Ashford University
Ashford University Campus in Clinton, Iowa
Ashford University Mailing Address
If you need to send in a payment to Ashford University, this is the address:
Ashford University
13500 Evening Creek Drive
San Diego, CA 92128
You will need to send in payments to pay tuition if you are not using student loans and the Pell grant to pay your costs. There is also a final fee of $150 at the end of your courses; this is a 'graduation fee' which is not (by Federal law) covered by loans or Pell. Be sure to use other funds to pay this final amount so as not to break any laws.
San Diego is the location of the administrative functions for Ashford. The main campus is located in Iowa (see map to right):
400 North Bluff Boulevard
Clinton, IA 52732
How to Calculate Your GPA
Every College Student learned to calculate a grade point average in high school. Total your points, total your units, and divide the former by the latter.
The adjacent table shows the point value of each letter grade at Ashford University. These are typical values, used at most institutions of higher learning.
I actually don't know if D grades are issued. My lowest grade was a C+, so I interpolated values I did not score myself directly, and extrapolated all values below a C+.
How to get good grades at Ashford:
In my first classes, I put in a "good" effort. I read most of the required reading. I wrote my papers using one extra page to "brain storm" the topic and flow of each paper. In those early course, I earned mostly B grades, and a C+ in the mix. However, in my international human resource management course, the instructor was brutal in grading (the only bad professor experience I had at AU). To get a B-, I had to read everything, spend three times as much time on each essay, and cite every source of information, allowing nothing to be uncited as "common knowledge."
I also looked at some job openings which asked for GPA.
So, I decided to invest a max effort in every class, and earn as many A's as possible. This is something I have done before. I have earned 4.0 semesters 9 times in my life. With the added effort, I earned 9 A's in my last 9 classes. Two of these were A- grades. However, if you are prepared to do ALL the reading (some of it two or three times) and take your time on quizzes and prepare your papers with design and research, then you can earn an A and possibly even a 4.0.
Ashford University Accreditation
According to their website:
Ashford University® is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission and a member of the North Central Association.
Ashford University is also applying for accreditation from the Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC).
Contact to Apply to Ashford:
The admissions counselor I used in the beginning, and who answered all my very many questions as I interviewed different online programs was Felicia Handsend. You can reach her at:
866.974.5700x4031
felicia.handsend@ashford.edu
Ashford University Diploma
Once graduated, everyone wants a diploma to hang on the wall. My last class ended two weeks ago. Today, I received an email notifying me that I will receive my diploma in the mail, "in approximately six (6) weeks."
Perhaps, Bridgepoint, you all can outsource this job to a Craigslist vendor? They always manage to get things out in two business days. But, Ashford has seen this day steadily approaching for two years. I think it would be fair to have predicted my graduating as I began the last class with a streak of 8 A's and a 3.6 overall gpa. I saw someone else complain about the late delivery; I thought it was silly and an anomaly for certain. But, it seems that two weeks is standard delivery. $150 graduation fee, and it takes two months to deliver the diploma?
It may seem minor. But, I am excited. I want to see my diploma! After all, perhaps more than the knowledge, I invested two years and $13,000 for the piece of paper I can show in interviews and my clients can see on my wall. It's like my birthday has been rescheduled.
Here is the email I received on February 13th, two weeks after my last class on January 30th:
Congratulations on completing all of your degree requirements!
This email is to notify you that your diploma was ordered by the Registrar’s Office. In approximately six (6) weeks, your diploma will be delivered to the address we had on file at the close of the month in which you completed all program requirements. Your diploma will display all the degrees and honors that you have earned at Ashford University; however, your diploma will not display any earned minors, concentrations, or specializations.
As part of our new diploma program which began on July 1, 2011, your diploma will now arrive fully framed to aid you in properly displaying your academic accomplishments. Congratulations on this great achievement!
However, I must note that Ashford did many, many things for me during my two years- and they did them quickly. So, they are still running a 99% approval rating from me. But... it's the diploma! C'mon, people!
Update: I received my framed diploma in the time promised. It is presented in a very nice frame, with a gold-embossed university symbol on the topmost of a triple-layered matte. For my 3.62 gpa, the university bestowed me with cum laude beneath my name.
Ashford University Community Outreach Day
In 2012, Ashford began a program for volunteering. It convened April 24, 2012. Ashford students went into their communities to volunteer and make a difference. This is important for Ashford and online schools. Just about the only thing online schools do not do as well as campus schools is to get students out to volunteer.
Personally, I do not see how that makes a better manager or psychologist. But, the brick and mortar campuses are touting the average number of hours their students volunteer. So, the volunteer day is just one more thing making Ashford a cut above.
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I have taught both traditional and online courses at universities and community colleges in the non-profit AND for-profit sectors.
The rigor can be there and it sounds from your experience that you found your online program to have rigor. I can tell you that this is not always the case, but that goes for the classroom as well as online.
One thing to consider when you are in ANY institution of higher education is your peer group.
Look around. How intelligent are your peers? If you're the smartest one in the room, that's probably not good. You want to go to college and be challenged, to learn more, to stretch yourself. If you are "the smartest guy/girl in the room", you're not being well-served by the institution that is taking your money.
If you're reading discussion board posts where most of your classmates' posts are hard to read due to misspelled words, and pathetic sentence structure, unless you're in a College Prep/reading class, you're not wisely investing your time and money.
Also, be wary of the resume impact. As someone who has hired many people over the years, and served on numerous hiring committees, I will tell you that there is a bias. Certain institutions, when appearing on a resume, route it to the trash can. The institutions most likely to land your resume in "File 13" are those perceived to be diploma mills, or rigorless online degree factories. Think about it: if your classmates routinely posted poorly-written topics on papers and discussions, do you think that happens in a bubble? There are people (like me) who have encountered others with that degree and if the experience wasn't a positive one, you're going to suffer. If your college is allowing people to move on (pass classes) and graduate and they're still not writing much better than a 5th grader, you have the potential to pay a steep price for that, beyond your student loans by not being hired.
Even open-minded people, when presented with 2 resumes of relatively equal experience where one person has a traditional degree and the other has a degree from a questionable institution, the traditional college always wins, hands down. I have served on a number of committees when discussions about certain online "degrees" ended in polite chit chat while the resume was moved to the "do not consider" pile.
Unfortunately, there is a LOT of money to be made in online education and a lot of money has been made in this sector by non-profit educational institutions (making money to stay afloat, most of the time) as well as for-profit institutions, making money to pay stockholders. This doesn't always set up the best environment for doing what's best for students in the online class environment.
Choose your program of study wisely. Talk to employers. Google the institution. An online degree from Penn State University is viewed much differently than an online degree from a place like you have mentioned. Whether this is right or wrong, I leave to others to decide, but at the end of the day, most of us went to school to get a better job, so if the degree you are listing is an impediment to getting that job,... was the convenience of the online degree worth what you borrowed?
Interesting. If you Google "Ashford University" and the word "Scam" you will find that it is not only me that has some question about certain schools (http://ashford-university.pissedconsumer.com/ashfo
It is this kind of press that makes it hard for those with what could be called "questionable" degrees to get jobs. I am certain that there are unhappy consumers at all colleges and universities but generally speaking, where there is smoke...
As to the statement, "There are no bad students, only bad teachers" I disagree. While there are certainly bad teachers out there, there are also students who want the degree without doing any work; students who want an "A" for just showing up; students who cheat, blatantly and I could go on. There are bad teachers, and there are most certainly bad students just as there are bad schools.
My point was that those on the market for a degree should research thoroughly what the options are available to them, and know what they are getting in to, in terms of money spent, and reputation in the work force before they spend a single dollar on any class or degree program. This may not be codified in the MENSA charter, but it is good, old fashioned common sense.
Unfortunately, in teaching on the online (for-profit) environment, I found that a LOT of students copy word-for-word from web sites, and submit it as their own work. They also are prone to copying directly from the textbook and changing a word here and there, which is also cheating.
Unfortunately for those like you who actually do the work, this is what a lot of us remember when we see those institutions on resumes...
Where was this article a year and a half ago. I am a class away from getting my online degree and know that the education level cannot be compared to a brick and mortar, but the information posted by Smart Chick is a bit saddening. I think that that "scam" part of online education does include cheating and inappropriate work being submitted, but it also has to do with the financial aid. We, as students, are locked into terms with these over-priced classes that are similar to prices at more well-known and established institutions.
Hello,
I am about to complete my last class at Ashford University; I found this review to be very interesting and would like to make a comment.
I have questioned the integrity of the courses at times, however, the only times I have felt like "the smartest kid in the class" is when after three years of being a student at Ashford, I was placed in a freshman psychology class for one of my electives. I felt a little discouraged seeing bad grammar here and there, but I also realized they were probably students who were entering college level work for the first time...
You ask: "Is it a negative or a positive attribute of a graduate who completed a program in which only 37% of those who started graduated?"
This depends on many factors. What did the 37% look like as a group? Were they literate, educated individuals? Had they been exposed to a rigorous program of study where they were challenged, not only by the faculty but by peer interactions and the materials presented?
Why did the other 63% NOT graduate? Were the admission standards too lax so that anyone with a pulse (and access to Pell grants and student loan funding) was admitted, or was there a rigorous admissions process?
If they admit people not ready for college level work - as do all the nation's community colleges - do they provide the kind of remediation and support so that the students have a chance at being successful or do they simply take their money, get them contractually obligated to paying full tuition regardless of whether or not they complete, and leave them to their own devices?
The answers to these questions must be learned before you can answer your question.
As to whether or not "this speaks nothing against a GRADUATE of a distance learning program", I ask you this: given the questions I have posed, how do you think people will judge the 37% who graduate from an institution where 63% fail out?
Here's a hint. Harvard admits 8% (yes, eight!) of the undergraduate applicants and has a graduation rate of 98%, overall (undergraduate, full time). Take a good gander at the admit rate at your school and if they are admitting close to 100% of the applicants and graduating less than half of them, well - you're in MENSA,...do the math.
I was going to go to Ashford University until I found out that they were a publicly trading company. This makes it look really bad in my eyes and so I decided not to go there. It is slowly becoming another University of Phoenix.
If you read the bios from the faculty like the Directors and V.P's etc, they all have worked for Apollo inc. Also if you search hard enough you will find that they were held accountable for keeping a lot of student finanical aid funds. I live in California, I don't have time to go to Iowa just to argue over figures that were not calculated correctly. I am trying to do a master's degree and I will have to pull out loans. I am not trying to argue with you or anything, I am just don't know what to school to go to. I like Grand Canyon University but they are like Ashford too. FYI I did not bother checking for grammer or spelling errors. I dont care right now. lol
I do look at their numbers but my business courses have taught me that many corporations lie about their numbers. I am very limited to where I can go because my B.A in Healthcare Leadership degree is Nationally Accreditted and not Regionally Accreditted. There is a bias on NA vs RA degrees. Anyway, what do you think about Western Govenors University? Also you mentioned you had a great experience at Ashford. Did you attend their campus on ground? If you did then that would make all the difference. I need to attend online. Online is a whole new thing right now and so all kinds of colleges are struggling with how to deliver education online. My undergrad was done on campus and I really learned a lot.
What do you think about Western Govenors University? Did you go to Ashford on ground campus?
HCL - run for your life from schools like Ashford (and check out another hubber's experience at Ashford titled "My Ashford University Experience").
There are problems in almost every corner of higher education but at least in the traditional (read: respected) schools, you have a chance of learning something applicable in the work place AND your resume won't be overlooked by hiring managers who know what these schools churn out...
Wow, you and smartchick sound so smart. Reading your posts makes my head spin...lol
Check out this research study on how for-profit grads fare after graduation: http://capseecenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02
(Hint: not so well)
I enjoyed this article. I have enrolled with AU. I read all the posts and I have to say I am not at all nervous about people accepting my degree. I feel I made a wonderful choice. I have never been to any colleges other than AU, and I am glad I choose this college first. When I decided to attend Ashford, my father was researching online and saying are you sure. I said yes! I researched Ashford as well and yes there were many people saying negative things, there were also many that have had great experiences as well. I cant judge someones post without knowing what the full circumstances are. A person writing blogs that are negative about Ashford may have been kicked out for cheating for all I know, or they could have a legit reason to give it a bad reputation. I can say for myself it has been a wonderful experience. I am learning alot, and being challenged. I am about to start my 5th course, I was a talented student in high school but find I am still being challenged, and learning many new things. I can say this has been a good blance between challnege, and easy. Some things are easier than others, but I feel like I am in college. Some classes I have had to put in more time, while others not as much. I do agree that in online school a person has to read so much more, and it is more challenging at times, I say this because we have to take learning into our own hands. I have to read the material, and do my research, and make sure I fully understand the discussion before submitting my response, and sometimes its more difficult then sitting in a class room with a teacher, where I can just raise my hand to ask a question. I can aslo agree some people dont take education as serious as others, but was it not the same way in grades k-12 also? I feel my experience with Ashford lies on how I am as a student, and not based on other peoples experiences. I hope soon more online colleges are given credit they deserve, if they do. I feel Ashford is one of them. I am so happy I dont have to drive 2 hours a day just to school and back, and I am still able to be home with my son daily. I can do my work at anytime of the day, if it's sunny out I can play outside with my son and do my work in the evening if I choose. I dont have to worry about childcare on top of going to school, since my husband works all the time, and I am a stay at home mother. Ashford has offered me this luxury to be able to get a degree, and still be the mother I want to be. I can say, if it were not for online schooling many people would not be able to go back to school, or would not want to.








StephanieBCrosby Level 6 Commenter 5 months ago
I am glad to read a review of an online institution that is not simply a scathing report of one personal bad experience. I think more people need to take time to look at all aspects of the institution and provide as much unbiased feedback as possible to really give others a sense of what an institution is like. Thanks for being level-headed in your approach. Voted up and useful.